crank1979

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Reply with quote | #1 | Does anyone else keep a photogrphic history of the bikes they've owned since they got reasonably serious about riding?
I started with this bike here in 1996. It was my very first mountain bike after riding road bikes for a few years. I custom made it as my DT hsc major project with the help of 2 frame builders, Frank Paino and Kerry Hopkins. I had the idea to bend the seat stays into an S shape but Frank didn't like the idea and wouldn't help me if i bent them how i wanted so i bought a second set of stays from him but all he had was road tubing and they ended up snapping after about a year of abuse. Frank helped me braze the front triangle together on his jig, Kerry helped me braze the chain stays on and i rode 20km from Liverpool to home with it under my arm when it was done and then i brazed the seat stays on at school because i didn't need a jig for those ones. Guess what all of the new model bikes came out with the year after i made this one? That's right, S bend stays! I was a year ahead of the game! Now it might look like pink, but the colour is actually Amethyst from the 1995 model Ford Festiva catalogue and it originally had Judy Yellow staight blade steel forks. You can't beat the beauty of a fillet brazed steel frame, although titanium comes awfully close.
 The first frame broke just in time for me to receive my first scholarship while at uni. Some of the scholarship money went to buying this beast. It was fully tricked out with the latest 24 speed gears, cantilever brakes and Rock Shox Mag 21 suspension forks that had no damping by the end of every ride and spewed oil everywhere! It's now set up as a beater that people ride when they come for rides with me but it's done pretty much everything from XC racing, commutting to work and a stint in the Sydney CBD as a bike courier! The frame has only just gone out of warranty. It was around the time i bought this bike that i found Phantom Cycles too.
 Then as a uni assignment i made this next one. I was devastated with it not turning out because i machined the swingarm shock mount at the wrong angle. It was heavy and needed some fine tuning but the ideas i had for it have shown up on other bikes since so i'm glad that the ideas were at least good ones. I went for a very brief ride on it and liked the slightly slacker head tube angle i used that has now become a bit more of the norm. I took night classes at TAFE to be able to tig weld aluminium, made up a prototype jig and machined everything at uni. It was a great learning experience but at the time i wasn't happy at all, until i bought the next bike!
 After the failure of Dirty Bikes first frameset, i was set on getting a full suspension bike. I managed to find a great deal on the Norco but it came without a rear shock. Not to worry, i had a spare rear shock sent to me by Fox Racing Shox in the wrong size (their mistake) so i swapped the bike shop for one that would fit the Norco and chucked it on. I was also determined to go for disc brakes and managed to swap another spare rear shock (Fox sent me 4 in total, the first two weren't the right size so they sent me two more and told me to keep the original 2! ) for a set of hydraulic disc brakes. I had this bike for 6 years before upgrading to the Nomad and in that time i changed tyres a few times, chain and cassette a few times, fork seals twice and rear shock bushings once. It's still running strong today as i keep it for a friend to ride.
 In 2006 i decided i had outgrown the performance of the Norco and wanted to trade up. I was going to get a Devinci Magma that Phantom Cycles had hanging on the wall but Kerry said he'd do me a great deal on the Nomad. At first i thought it was a very ugly bike but the more reviews i read the better it sounded and started looking so i bought it. It's shown in it's most recent configuration but the only parts still on it from when i bought it new are the frame (not including the rear shock), forks and seat. Everything else has been swapped out at some point. It's a brilliant do it all bike and fr exceeds my abilities, but it gives me plenty of confidence and it doesn't hurt to ride something nice. It's a bit heavy though.
 Towards the end of 2006 or early 2007 one of the teachers at school was given a road bike by her ex-husband and decided she didn't want anything from him and asked if me i wanted it. We agreed on a brilliant price and i my first road bike with STI shifting. It made road riding much more pleasant, faster and exciting. I swapped out the stem for a longer one, the bars for wider ones and chucked on some tyres with great puncture resistance and commutted to an from work on it 3 or 4 days a week for most of last year and 4 days a week this year so far. All of this riding made me realise that the wheels are heavy and flexy and the frame is a bit flexy too. When i am pedalling pretty hard, usually to beat a traffic light, i can make the rear brak rub the wheel because it's all flexing!
 After hauling the Nomad around on some pretty tame trails i decided a new hardtail was in order. There was no way i could ride the old hardtail because the top tube was too long for my riding style now. That's what i told myself anyway and proceeded to build up a pretty slick 853 steel hardtail running tubeless wheels to make it a bit more comfy. It's a great bike for fast, smooth firetrails or singletrack but i'm too used to the squishy Nomad for it to be much good for me on anything technical, as demonstrated by my crash at Sparrow Hill on the only technical section of the course! I had this for a few months before i traded it in for a Giant Anthem.

 About 7 months ago i picked up my new road bike, an EMC2 Equip Team, full carbon. I swapped out the Zipp wheels for the new Dura Ace carbon wheels because tubulars scare me and these wheels were supposed to be pretty good. I also swapped the crank because the Dura Ace that was supplied was a 172.5mm length but i like a 170mm length. I ended up with a nice FSA SLK carbon crank. I've already got the lights, bottle cages, pump and hrm hooked up so it's ready for some fast commutting! I've got the stem length sorted out and have a nifty Pedalsoft brand stem with integrated aerobar mounts on it so it all looks pretty clean. I just have to get around to cutting the fork steerer down. With all the gear on it it weighs in at about 7kg. I could easily go lighter with different tyres (which i tried and they lasted a week before being sliced to bits), seat, post, stem, bars, pedals and take all of the accessories off it but then i'd worry about it being too fragile for the groomed roads of Campbelltown!
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Reply with quote | #3 | Masochist.
What sort of chain is that? Not that rubber type...
I'd love to have a go on it when we go out to Appin.
You'd kill yourself doing the Dirtworks or something on it. Bart said he was warned by a mate he HAD to take his dually to Dirtworks. Hardtail would be too hard!
Has a Mongoose womens bike cos he's short at only 5' something". Nice guy. You'd like him. Hopefully he'll put himself up on the forums.
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Reply with quote | #4 | No it's not a rubber belt. It's a Sram PC-7X chain. It's got no chance of getting out to Appin unless i decide to ride from home and do the Dharawal loop.
It handled Loftus and the Kentlyn firetrails easily, i just have to get used to not having rear suspension. I can't jump well at all! I only had to walk the steep firetrail climb at Loftus and the small technical steps going upwards in the singletrack section.
My legs were a bit tired today but i'll get used to it. 
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Reply with quote | #6 | Which Pivot Firebird did you get: XTR Ultralite, XT or SLX?
How much do you want for the Nomad? I can put it in next Editorial or ask the guys at work. I'm guessing you're running out of space in the garage right about now...
...and the Giant frame? Shame it's not my size otherwise I'd be keen...(it was a great bike!!)
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Reply with quote | #7 | I've gone for the Firebird as a frame only. From the Giant i've taken the Fox Float 36 RC2 forks, Mavic Crossmax SX wheels, X0 shifters and rear derailleur, Joplin seat post, SDG Bel Air seat, Race Face Atlas AM handlebars, Race Face Atlas cranks, chain, cassette and i think that's it.
I'll chuck an XTR front derailleur on there and see what stem length and model is available to suit, some Oury lock-on grips, some Conti tyres i'll have to order online because the Australian importer apparently isn't bringing them in, a headset that reduces from 1.5" to 1 1/8" and some XT or Saint brakes.
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Reply with quote | #8 | And here is the Pivot Firebird...

I'll have a fiddle around with the rear shock and see how it goes around Appin when the weather is better. I'll take the CCDB wth me and swap it at the track to see which rear shock i like better. The RF Atlas cranks wouldn't work with the front derailleur mount on the frame so i was lucky enough to get some Saint cranks. I sold the RF bars ans stem with the Giant Reign frame so i put a 90mm RF Dues XC SL stem on it that i swapped at home for the Syncros AM 75mm stem from the Anthem, which then got the 90mm stem and feels a bit better. The RF bars also went with the Reign frame so i put some FSA K Force DH carbon bars on it. 
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First ride report, based on one lap at Appin. I'm pretty familiar with the Appin loop and know how the Nomad goes out there so i figured it would be the perfect place to try out the Firebird.
Basically, it's better than the Nomad was.
I'm very happy with the build i got together. The 2.4" UST Conti Rubber Queen tyres worked very well in the slippery sandy conditions at 32psi. Not as much cornering grip as the Minions i'd say, but considering the lesser amount of weight i'm very happy with them. Rear end traction was excellent, in fact i don't think i lost traction once climbing anything. The Crossmax SX wheels felt just like the old ones except the rear hub is significantly louder. I didn't notice the quicker engagement and i'm hoping they hold up as well as my old ones because the rim has been lightened with some machining similar to the SLs.
I was a bit worried about how the forks would perform. I've always been a Marzocchi rider going back to the original Z1s, however the 2007 AM SL1s on Michelle's Devinci gave me reason to try something different on the Anthem (Rebas) and the Float 36 RC2s performed brilliantly. I think i managed to get all the settings right first go! It tracked well, sucked up all the small bumps and handled all of the ledges and stuff that Appin has. It also bobbed less than the 66RC2X i had on the Nomad when standing and pedalling.
Carbon bars are always something that give people some concerns and i'm no different. I went for the FSA K Force DH bars because the guys at the shop said they were nice and strong. They immediately felt very stiff. The front end had a very together sort of feel. Steering was faster than the Nomad.
The bike was more maneuverable than the Nomad. I could change direction and lines much faster. The Firebird didn't feel as good plowing through things as the Nomad did but it made up for it with it's overall lighter weight and responsiveness. Flickable is how it would best be described i guess. The FB was also easier to get in the air and wheelie or manual through the puddles. Which it needs to be because there is a massive Firebird sticker under the downtube and how else am i meant to show it off! 
Shifting was good. On the Nomad i was running X9 shifters and rear derailleur with an XTR front derailleur. On the Firebird i have X0 shifters and rear derailleur with an XT front derailleur. Same series chain and cassette on both bikes. I felt shifting performance was level. The front derailleur on the Firebird is attached to a swinging mount. I think this is possibly a solution looking for a problem. Front shifting on the Nomad was no worse or better than on the Firebird. Perhaps i'll notice a difference when i replace the XT with an XTR front mech on the FB. While i couldn't feel any performance difference with the shifters, the X0 shifters did feel better when in use but i couldn't qualify why.
Shimano Saint cranks feel much stiffer than the Race Face Atlas AM cranks i had. It doesn't feel like any power is being wasted andi really did think to myself while climbing that the cranks were noticeably stiffer. It's not something i thought i'd pick up on but i did.
I didn't lower the Joplin seat post once. I never felt the need. I'll see how it goes for a few more rides but i might sell it and just chuck a Thomson or something on there instead. The play in the Joplin wasn't noticeable unless i was stopped and moving around to check if i could feel it moving!
So now onto the big part, the frame and how it performed...
Climbing was much better on the FB than the Nomad. I could stand without the rear bobbing up and down or feeling like i was wasting power. I spent most of my time climbing in the 36t chainring as it was just that much easier. I put it in the 22t granny ring to see how it went and it was still nice and smooth. None of the chain pull that i could feel on the Nomad in the granny ring and 4th or 5th.
Looking down you can see the gold lower link moving. It just looks cool.
Braking didn't seem to affect the rear suspension at all and the rear end felt as laterally stiff as the Nomad.
Acceleration was faster on the FB. Based on the climbing performance i think a lot of this can be attributed to the rear suspension design, although the lower weight defintely helps. Descending was probably the only spot where the lower weight was a bit of a disadvantage. The bike is very stable at speed and when descending but it's not built up quite as burly as the Nomad was, so it doesn't plow through stuff as well. There was one section where i usually aim the Nomad straight down but on this bike i felt like i was dancing around the rough stuff. It felt pretty cool. I think the bottom bracket is slightly higher on the FB too. I didn't bash any rocks with the cranks.
Next ride i'll incrase the pressure in the rear shock as i think it was a little low this time out. I didn't bottom the shock, although i'll increase the bottom out setting too, and it didn't feel mushy. Just looking down while riding it looked like it might have been using a bit too much travel. I had about 20mm of sag when Fox recommends 16mm and i left the shock pump at home. However, the rear suspension felt awesome and i don't know if i'll even bother trying the CCDB! I'll see how it goes with a bit more air pressure next ride before i put it up for sale though.
So overall, i'm extremely happy with the Firebird. My back up plan of selling it and buying a new Nomad looks like it won't come into play. It really is a step up from my old Nomad! |
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Second ride on the Firebird today, again around a local track so i could compare it to how the Nomad rides.
Descending seems to require a bit more concentration on the Firebird. I'm putting this down to a few things. The first being the head angle is slightly steeper on the Firebird, however i appreciate the quicker steering on the descents. The handlebars are wider than what i have on the other bikes i'm riding but once i got used to them part way through the ride it all felt good and the stiffness of the bars is excellent. I thought i had the forks set perfectly, but i haven't got them dialled in as well as i'd like just yet. I'll have to slow the rebound down and try running a bit less air pressure. It'll be a fine line between having them set as a great trail fork or as plush as the 66s were.
Climbing is much better. I could feel the rear end digging in on the climbs. I'm attributing some of this to the Continental Rubber Queen tyres which have plenty of grip. Everything i had the ability to get up i got up. I definitely like the 22 tooth granny ring and reckon i can feel a little bit of chain pull in granny/2nd gear. It's not major, but i reckon it's there. Every other gear combo feels perfect.
Cornering is better for me. It is faster to change directions and the stiffness up front means the bike goes exactly where i point it. The Nomad did this as well but didn't feel as 'direct'. It never felt flexy up front but the Firebird just feels better. A bit more practice with the Rubber Queen tyres and i'll be leaning it over some more. I'm running the 2.2" tyres at the moment, which don't use the Black Chilli compound but still gripped nicely. +1 for UST and sealant as well. I ran over a nail crossing a bridge and the sealant filled it up with no problems.
Front shifting wasn't as good as the last ride so i'll have a close look at the derailleur area and see what happens. Up shifts were perfect but down shifts were slow. There was plenty of sand about but it is hopefully just a matter of resetting the limit screws.
The bottom bracket is definitely a bit higher. I only hit the cranks once on a track where i always bash the cranks and pedals. I think this also hinders the descending a little but it's a trade off i can live with.
The rear suspension felt very smooth off the drops. I didn't do anything bigger than what i normally do and i never felt or heard a clunk after a drop. The rubber o-ring didn't get pushed off the end of the shock body but it came pretty close. This was with a bit more air pressure in the main body and in the piggy back chamber and also with the bottom out adjustment wound in a bit more. I think i'll wind it in a bit further and add some more air pressure to both chambers. Small bump compliance was excellent even with the increased air pressure. |
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Reply with quote | #12 |
I found some cracks in the seat stays of the EMC2 yesterday and took it to the lbs to assess. It's now being sent away for replacement, but i might change over to a BMC SLC01 frame. |
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Reply with quote | #14 | I've complained a bit about the bottom bracket height on the Anthem, and since moving house and finding the local trails to be very rocky i decided to get something with a higher bb. I originally tried to set up the Devinci Magma but just didn't like it.
So i went with this instead.

Frame: Pivot Mach 5 small size. Fork: Fox F150 RLC Grips: Oury lock-on Handlebar: FSA K Force DH carbon bars Stem: Pro Koryak 90mm Seat post: Race Face Dues XC Cassette: Shimano XT 11-34 Chain: Shimano XTR Front derailleur: Shimano XT Rear derailleur: SRAM X9 Shifters: SRAM X0 Wheels: Shimano XT Seat: SDG Bel Air Headset: Ritchey WCS Cranks: Race Face Deus XC 170mm Brakes: Shimano XT Tyres: Continental Mtn Kings |
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Reply with quote | #15 |
First mtb ride today for the Mach 5, and it was 110km for the Highland Fling.
The steering is excellent. Very stable, especially through sand. The bike just holds a line beautifully even if i probably still had a little bit too much air pressure in the fork and rear shock.
The bike climbs much better than my 3.5" travel Anthem. The front end takes a little bit more thinking about to stop wandering up steep climbs but i found myself using 2 or 3 gears higher than i would use on the Anthem to get up the hills. There was almost no bob while climbing, but i did have a little too much air pressure in the shock. At the same time though, the traction available to get up everything was brilliant.
Descending was very nice. I was much more confident on the Mach 5 than i am on the Anthem.
Through the technical stuff i was about to keep pedalling and not worry about hitting the cranks or pedals. It's a very comfortable bike and i was extremely happy with how it went. I do need adjust the rear derailleur a bit but it's nothing major.
It seems like it's going to be very versatile. I'll test it out on my local track and see how it handles proper technical xc stuff. I'm also happy that it's a very different bike to the Firebird. Where the FB feels like a comfy lounge chair, the Mach 5 is a lot racier without having any twitchyness or weird handling traits. __________________
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